My Dear NPR. You ain’t no saint, neither

« OBITUARY COLUMN: Marco Rubio, 41, no More | Main

05/06/2012

My Dear NPR. You ain’t no saint, neither

My Dear NPR,

I am Sid Harth, not that it matters.

Cool it.

I shall chase you, like a panther chasing a rabbit. Yosselph, ain’t no saint, neither.

A fact.

…and I am Sid Harth@mysistereileen.com

  1. NPR, I am Sid Harth « इदं न मम – My Sister Eileen

    mysistereileen.com/?p=2194

    Jul 27, 2011 – Cogito Ergo Sum I think, Therefore, I am Sid Harth … ago – @mysistereileen.com @www.npr.org #mysistereileen, Oops, SarahPalin: Sid Harth.

  2. My Sister Eileen Oops, Agnese and I « इदं न मम

    mysistereileen.com/?p=1035

    4 days ago – My Sister Eileen is a 1955 American CinemaScope musical film … ago – @mysistereileen.com @www.npr.org #mysistereileen, Oops, SarahPalin:

  3. Of Brookings, Bending History, Oops, Trending My Sister Eileen

    mysistereileen.com/?p=1825

    Apr 10, 2012 – …and I am Sid Harth@mysistereileen.com. April 10, 2012 …. Please be aware that the authoritative record of NPR’s programming is the audio.

    You You shared this on Blogger · Apr 17, 2012 · Public
  4. Yah Allah, Oops, Tarantullah – Sid Harth Sid Harth

    www.sidharthsidharth.com/?p=452

    Jul 27, 2011 – Jun 19, 2011 – 7 hours ago – @mysistereileen.com @www.npr.org #mysistereileen, Oops, SarahPalin: Sid Harth. November 15, 2004.

  5. Say Rah-Rah-Sis-Boom-Pah-Palin – Sid Harth Sid Harth

    www.sidharthsidharth.com/?p=627

    Sep 4, 2011 – Jun 19, 2011 – mysistereileencom-wwwnprorg-mysistereileen-oops-sarahpalin-sid- … @mysistereileen.com @www.npr.org #mysistereileen,

  6. इदं न मम – My Sister Eileen

    www.cogitoergosumdesign.com/?pag__&paged=77

    Apr 12, 2012 – May Allah be praised,(PBUH). Hi, NPR! …and I am Sid Harth@mysistereileen.com. April 12, 2012. NPR Shop | NPR Social Media | Welcome,

  7. Mamata D-D- and I « The Devil and a Dingbat

    www.allcogitoergosum.com/?p=578

    Jan 7, 2012 – Jun 19, 2011 – 7 hours ago – @mysistereileen.com @www.npr.org #mysistereileen, Oops, SarahPalin: Sid Harth. November 15, 2004.

  8. @mysistereileen.com @bloomberg.com #GTL #MarketRegulator

    www.sidileak.us/…/mysistereileencom-bloombergcom-gtl-marketreg…

    Jun 21, 2011 – @mysistereileen.com @bloomberg.com @wsj.com #RussiaHoldings # … Cogito Ergo Sum: @mysistereileen @www.npr.org #mysistereileen

  9. Report: Explosion on Iranian oil rig kills 1 – Foreign Policy and I

    www.arabuhuru.org/page/418/

    mysistereileen.com/. 7 hours ago – Everything you always wanted to know about my sister Eileen….. author interviews, & book readings, all at NPR Books

  10. China Loosens Grip on Yuan – इदं न मम

    www.cogitoergosuminc.com/?p=pekivrphwfc&paged=52

    Apr 16, 2012 – Take five. …and I am Sid Harth@mysistereileen.com. April 17, 2012. NPR Shop | NPR Social Media | Welcome, Sid Harth (navanavonmilita)

Ad related to @mysistereileen.com NPRWhy this ad?

  1. WAMU 88.5

    www.wamu.org/

    News, in-depth analysis, smart talk No yelling allowed

The Death Of Facts In An Age Of ‘Truthiness’

by NPR Staff

text size A A A

April 29, 2012

According to  columnist Rex Huppke, there was a recent death that you might have missed. It wasn’t an actor, musician or famous politician, but facts.

In a piece for the Chicago Tribune, Huppke says facts – things we know to be true – are now dead.

Huppke says the final blow came on Wednesday, April 18, when Republican Rep. Allen West of Florida declared that about 80 members of the Democratic Party in Congress are members of the Communist Party.

“That was the death-blow for facts,” Huppke tells weekends on All Things Considered host Guy Raz.

One call to the Communist Party USA confirmed that this was, in fact, not true. According to them, no one in the U.S. House of Representatives is a member of the Communist Party. Days later, Allen West stood by his comments.

So that led Huppke to the idea that if someone of any political party can say something so patently untrue and stand by it — which seems to happen more and more often, he says — then facts must be meaningless and dead.

“[Facts are] survived by rumor and innuendo, two brothers, and then a sister, emphatic assertion,” he says. “They’re all grieving right now, but we wish the best for them.”

There’s another sibling that may be too busy thriving to grieve. Comedian Stephen Colbert coined the term “truthiness” as the notion that truth doesn’t lie in books and facts but rather, in your gut. If Huppke is right and facts are indeed dead, perhaps Colbert’s satire is our reality. Where does that leave those of us seeking the truth?

If Facts Are Dead, How About Fact-Checking?

Bill Adair is the editor of PolitiFact, a website run by a team of seasoned journalists that checks facts made by members of Congress, the White House and interest groups. Despite Huppke’s obituary, he tells NPR’s Raz that the market for fact-checking remains strong.

“Whether the fact has actually died or is just on its death bed, I think it means it’s a great time to be in the fact-checking business,” Adair says, “because there are just so many questions about what’s accurate and what’s not.”

Whether the fact has actually died or is just on its death bed, I think it means it’s a great time to be in the fact-checking business.

- Bill Adair, Politico

PolitiFact’s fact-checking process is long and arduous. The team spends a lot of time researching whether a fact is true, half-true or not at all true, then posts their findings to the site. When it’s over, however, the team at PolitiFact — and even some Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists — can’t always convince people what is true.

Adair often gets emails accusing them of being biased, but he says he’s not sure who they’re supposed to be biased in favor of because they get criticized a lot by both sides.

“I think that’s just the nature of a very rough-and-tumble political discourse,” he says. “We are in a time when there’s more political discourse than ever … and when you hear somebody say your team is wrong, almost like a referee, you’re going to argue with the ref. You’re going to say the ref is biased.”

The ‘Backfire Effect’

Increasingly, people don’t just say the referee is biased, they say the referee is outright lying.

Dartmouth political scientist Brendan Nyhan, and a colleague of his, Jason Reifler, conducted an experiment where they had people read a mock new article about President George W. Bush.

The article quoted Bush as saying his tax cuts increased government revenue, which is false. Some of the participants were then given a second article that had a correction: it said the Bush tax cuts actually led to a decline in tax revenue, which is true.

Those who opposed President Bush were more prone to believing the second article, while those who supported Bush, even after reading the second corrected article, were more likely to believe the first.

Nyhan calls this phenomenon the “backfire effect,” and it affects people of all political stripes.

“In journalism, in health [and] in education we tend to take the attitude that more information is better, and so there’s been an assumption that if we put the correct information out there, the facts will prevail,” Nyhan says. “Unfortunately, that’s not always true.”

In some cases, giving people corrective information about a misconception can make the problem worse, Nyhan says. That’s the “backfire effect,” and it can make them believe in the misconception even more strongly.

While there have been times of less polarization among political elites, Nyhan says there has never been a golden age of factual agreement. People have always believed incorrect things, but what has changed is the way our society is structured.

“That trend toward polarization has exacerbated this divergence in factual perceptions, to the point that it seems like we’ve lost something,” he says.

It’s simply too hard to walk back misconceptions once they’re out in the wild, Nyhan says, whether put there by political elites or another source. If there was a greater reputational price to pay for putting falsehoods out there, he says, perhaps there would be fewer of them in the first place.

“That, to me, is a difficult problem, but certainly an easier one than trying to change human nature,” he says, “which is what you’re talking about when you try to talk about convincing people. It’s just too difficult most of the time.”

More Media

Podcast + RSS Feeds

Podcast RSS
  • Media
  • All Things Considered–
What Facebook did for organ donation this week underscores social media's power to promote a cause.

Technology

Have You Friended Your Favorite Cause?

What Facebook did for organ donation this week underscores social media’s power to promote a cause.

In 1945, the wire service's Edward Kennedy reported the news that Germany had surrendered.

The Two-Way

AP Apologizes For WWII-Era Firing Of Reporter

In 1945, the wire service’s Edward Kennedy reported the news that Germany had surrendered.

Comments

Please keep your community civil. All comments must follow the NPR.org Community rules and terms of use. See also the Community FAQ.


Thank you for your comment. Please note we review some user comments to ensure they meet the NPR.org Community rules. For more information about this process, please read our explanation on how moderation works.

NPR reserves the right to read on the air and/or publish on its website or in any medium now known or unknown the e-mails and letters that we receive. We may edit them for clarity or brevity and identify authors by name and location. For additional information, please consult our Terms of Use.

Sid Harth (navanavonmilita)

Sid Harth (navanavonmilita) wrote:

My Dear NPR,

I am Sid Harth, not that it matters.

Cool it.

I shall chase you, like a panther chasing a rabbit. Yosselph, ain’t no saint, neither.

A fact.

…and I am Sid Harth@mysistereileen.com

Sunday, May 06, 2012 8:11:04 AM

Alvy Singer (AlvySinger)

Alvy Singer (AlvySinger) wrote:

Government’s lie.
Astoundingly, there is no clear legal recourse for this in modern democracy, in which governments are supposed to be beholden to their people.

Often these are subtle lies , such as diplomatic “white” lies – but increasingly they are lies made to support their agendas, and as the public has grown to entirely expect this, it has opened a huge gap in all political credibility.

Compounding this; Our modern political philosophies are most typically most deeply tied to economic beliefs
But economics as a science is in it’s infancy, since few macro-economic theories are provable, as they can not repeatedly be tested, and verified.

The significance of mass media to this death, perhaps reached it’s apex when a member of George W Bush’s administration explained to a new york times reporter, that they no longer belonged to ” the reality based community” but instead, as an empire, simply created reality, through their actions.

Conceptually, facts actually died on the day in the 1960′s when Marcel Duchamp held a press conference and announced that his influence upon modern art would end the next day at precisely 12:06 PM EST

Friday, May 04, 2012 2:22:45 PM

Martha Hyde (Ratcatcher)

Martha Hyde (Ratcatcher) wrote:

Actually many politicians think that by just saying so makes it so. Reagan kept calling all Democrats “tax and spend” types, not acknowledging that at least Democrats wanted to pay for the programs they wanted. Republicans at that time, and since then would pass mandates without passing any kind of taxation provision, passing the costs onto the state to find a way to pay for it.

Friday, May 04, 2012 8:33:59 AM

darya smith (darya)

darya smith (darya) wrote:

i believe it’s also the consumers of these “facts” to do some proofing on their own- like the people that were so willing to believe in death panels- wouldn’t have taken much probing to debunk that

Thursday, May 03, 2012 8:08:28 AM

Keith Richardson (KeithRichardson)

Keith Richardson (KeithRichardson) wrote:

Politifact is great.

FACTCHECK.ORG is a JOKE !

They get so many things wrong it’s pathetic, and have been recently skewered by Rachel Maddow and others.

Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:44:21 AM

John Ciccone (Brave_Sir_Robin)

John Ciccone (Brave_Sir_Robin) wrote:

To Cake Eater:
My first response was stopped by the Bush Police which is run from that whole AT+T thing in San Fran(fact). Cake eater is still giving us his opinion on the liberal media and no actual facts and not one fact to verify. But making minimum wage to troll “liberal” sites is a living. How ironic. He still thinks Reagan lowered taxes 8 years in a row (he raised taxes for 6 years). When are the Tea Baggers going away?

Wednesday, May 02, 2012 12:07:47 AM

John Ciccone (Brave_Sir_Robin)

John Ciccone (Brave_Sir_Robin) wrote:

To cake eater:
You are stating your opinion. I am reading no actual facts. Nice try but most of the poeple that read NPR are educated and well read. 1+1+2. That is a fact. “Obama is a socialist-communist born in greenland” is the same old money-grubbing right wing-nut propaganda that has gotten us NOWHERE. Open an account on rightwingnutradicala$$wipe.com and preach to them because I can assure you that educated people are not listening. This country has seriuous problems and you and your ilk are not helping. Move along.

Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:49:14 PM

cake eater (cakeater)

cake eater (cakeater) wrote:

Another good example of the liberal media reporting falsities is that they edited what Allen actually said. Pretty shameful on an article that is about the death of facts.

Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:16:27 PM

cake eater (cakeater)

cake eater (cakeater) wrote:

ben cromwell (sideshowben) wrote:

@Cakeeater

Allen is only half human. His father was a dingo.
(not intended to be a factual statement)
=========================================
Didn’t need a clarification for your statement anymore then I need for Allen’s statement. Now if the media started reporting it as truth, which lets face it the liberal media reports garbage stuff most of the time anyway, thats when the problem comes in. Kinda like the George Zimmerman case and how the liberal media purposefully reported incorrect information and edited information that the liberal media followers just lapped up like the Obama kool-aid.

Tuesday, May 01, 2012 3:52:01 PM

cake eater (cakeater)

cake eater (cakeater) wrote:

ben cromwell (sideshowben) wrote:

@Cakeeater

Allen is only half human. His father was a dingo.
(not intended to be a factual statement)
=========================================
Didn’t need a clarification for your statement anymore then I need for Allen’s statement. Now if the media started reporting it as truth, which lets face it the liberal media reports garbage stuff most of the time anyway, thats when the problem comes in. Kinda like the George Zimmerman case and how the liberal media purposefully reported incorrect information and edited information that the liberal media followers just lapped up like the Obama kool-aid.

Tuesday, May 01, 2012 3:50:44 PM

View all comments (221)»

NPR thanks our sponsors

Become an NPR Sponsor

podcast

Weekends on All Things Considered Podcast

Weekends On All Things Considered Podcast

Missed All Things Considered this weekend? Here’s the best of what you might’ve missed.

Feed

Subscribe in iTunes

Listen Now

@michele_norris On Twitter

  • Have had strong urge to don a big-brimmed-block-somebody’s-view kinda hat all day today. Love the derby. Gotta get there in my lifetime. about 14 hours ago
  • Agree. RT@carolynedgar MJB singing the National Anthem at the Kentucky Derby. Surprising choice, but she sounded and looked great. about 14 hours ago
  • Yikes! underwater spiders and vampire fish. @NatGeo Meet the 13 scariest freshwater creatures: http://t.co/RWeHYBa3 (via @NatGeoGreen) about 14 hours ago

Follow @michele_norris on Twitter.

@nprguyraz On Twitter

Follow @nprguyraz on Twitter.

@npratc On Twitter

Follow @npratc on Twitter.

  • To Predict Dating Success, The Secret’s In The Pronouns‏

Image
May 6, 2012 Please donate to your NPR Station
People who are interested in and paying close attention to each other begin to speak more alike, a psychologist says.
Shots – Health Blog
A psychologist says he can predict whether two people will end up on a date by analyzing their language style and use of certain words. His research on language can also help explain power dynamics between people.
Science
Enron, Worldcom, Bernie Madoff — the past decade has brought us a long parade of headlines involving unethical behavior. And that’s led researchers to a disturbing conclusion: The vast majority of us are not only capable of behaving in profoundly unethical ways, but without realizing it, we do it all the time. Exhibit A: the story of Toby Groves.
Support comes from: Become an NPR sponsor

Author Interviews
The two Washington political veterans who wrote the new book claim today’s Congress is probably the most dysfunctional since the Civil War — and they aren’t afraid to point fingers at who they think is to blame: the Republican Party.

Religion
Teresa MacBain admits that when she was ordained as a minister, she had big questions. She thought they’d make her faith stronger, but instead they haunted her. Then one day, she couldn’t take it anymore. In a move that’s left her unemployed and nearly friendless, MacBain has come out as an atheist — and she says it’s a big relief.

Humans
For decades, teachers, managers and parents have assumed that the performance of students and employees fits what’s known as the bell curve — in most activities, we expect a few people to be very good, a few people to be very bad and most people to be average. But new research argues that a lot of people are actually outliers.

More Most E-mailed
More at NPR.org
Get the Most E-mailed Stories Podcast from NPR
Or, get automatic updates via RSS with NPR News Feeds
This message was sent to bakulaji@msn.com
To stop ALL email from NPR Newsletters, click here to remove yourself from our lists.
This email was sent by: NPR, 635 Massachusetts Ave., NW, Washington, DC 20001-3753
© 2010 NPR
…and I am Sid Harth@mysistereileen.com

Posted at 08:19 AM | Permalink

Reblog (0)

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Post a comment

Comment below or sign in with TypePad Facebook Twitter and more…
(URLs automatically linked.)

Your Information

(Name and email address are required. Email address will not be displayed with the comment.)

Search

Blog powered by TypePad
Print Friendly
This entry was posted in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>