« Uncle Sam, Arab Spring, Oops, Nasty Thing and I | Main
06/23/2012
My Dear Agustino Fontevecchia, I am Sid Harth.
I am Sid Harth.
Do you know that beliefs, such as yours in peace, balancing acts, Middle East shared responsibilities, Yiddish turned into Farsi sort of thingy, as advocated by you, here and now, may land you in big trouble?
Needless to say, you are so off your rockers, pretending to be a messiah, Oops, Mahdi of the Middle East mess that I may proclaim you a heretic.
When you decide, finally, how in the world you can turn the good earth upside down, please let me know.
I wanna jump off, before you do it.
Talk is cheap and you are doing it, rather shamelessly.
Go to your room and no TV, sting, texting, factsting, internet surfing, eBaying, buying, selling, telling tall, unbelievable stories, disappearing, whispering, Oops, wetting your whims and whiskers for a weeks for you. Silly boy.
…and I am Sid Harth@webworldismyoyster.com
Thank you for submitting your comment:
My Dear Agustino Fontevecchia,
I am Sid Harth.
Do you know that beliefs, such as yours in peace, balancing acts, Middle East shared responsibilities, Yiddish turned into Farsi sort of thingy, as advocated by you, here and now, may land you in big trouble?
Needless to say, you are so off your rockers, pretending to be a messiah, Oops, Mahdi of the Middle East mess that I may proclaim you a heretic.
When you decide, finally, how in the world you can turn the good earth upside down, please let me know.
I wanna jump off, before you do it.
Talk is cheap and you are doing it, rather shamelessly.
Go to your room and no TV, sting, texting, factsting, internet surfing, eBaying, buying, selling, telling tall, unbelievable stories, disappearing, whispering, Oops, wetting your whims and whiskers for a weeks for you. Silly boy.
…and I am Sid Harth@webworldismyoyster.com
US Struggles to Install Proxy “Brotherhood” in Egypt
Tony Cartalucci
Prisonplanet.com
June 23, 2012
Were anyone to still believe the rhetoric of the so-called “Arab Spring,” one would be admittedly confused over the emerging political landscape in Egypt where the military establishment and the Muslim Brotherhood have emerged from what was supposedly a “pro-democracy” “popular uprising.”
However, if anyone understood that the “pro-democracy” protesters were in fact US State Department-funded, trained, and equipped mobs providing cover for the attempted installation of the Muslim Brotherhood amongst many other potential Western proxies, the current political battle would make perfect sense.
Image: Mohammed Morsi (above) is the Muslim Brotherhood’s current presidential candidate. As evidence continues to mount against the Brotherhood, implicating them as overt proxies of Western foreign policy, their credibility took another blow as the US State Department’s April 6 Movement endorsed Morsi. Below, Egypt’s youth are once again duped by Western propaganda and fellow Egyptians conspiring against their own nation and people.
The Egyptian military, like in many developing nations, may accept money from the West, may train with Western forces, and may even participate in Western machinations of global domination, but are ultimately nationalists with the means and motivation to draw lines and check the West’s ambitions within Egypt and throughout Egypt’s sphere of influence. The necessity for the West of removing not only Hosni Mubarak who had refused to participate in a wider role against Iraq and Iran, but the grip of the military itself over Egyptian politics and replacing it with the Muslim Brotherhood who is already hard at work in Syria attempting to overthrow one of Iran’s primary regional allies, is paramount.
“Pro-democracy” movements, particularly the April 6 youth movement, trained, funded, and equipped by the US State Department, serve the sole purpose of giving the Muslim Brotherhood’s installation into power a spin of “legitimacy” where otherwise none exists. Those within these “pro-democracy” movements with legitimate intentions will be inevitably disappointed if not entirely thrown under the wheels of Western machinations as regional war aimed at destroying Iran, Syria, and Lebanon’s Hezbollah arch of influence slowly unfolds.
Muslim Brotherhood were, are, and will be Western Proxies
Despite the Brotherhood’s lofty rhetoric, it has from its inception been a key proliferator of Western foreign policy. Currently, the Syrian arm of the Muslim Brotherhood has been involved heavily, leading in fact, the US, Israeli, Saudi, and Qatari-backed sectarian violence that has been ravaging Syria for over a year. In a May 6, 2012 Reuters article it stated:
“Working quietly, the Brotherhood has been financing Free Syrian Army defectors based in Turkey and channeling money and supplies to Syria, reviving their base among small Sunni farmers and middle class Syrians, opposition sources say.”
While Reuters categorically fails to explain the “how” behind the Brotherhood’s resurrection, it was revealed in a 2007 New Yorker article titled, “The Redirection” by Seymour Hersh, as being directly backed by the US and Israel who were funneling support through the Saudis so as to not compromise the “credibility” of the so-called “Islamic” movement. Hersh revealed that members of the Lebanese Saad Hariri clique, then led by Fouad Siniora, had been the go-between for US planners and the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood.
Hersh reports the Lebanese Hariri faction had met Dick Cheney in Washington and relayed personally the importance of using the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria in any move against the ruling government:
“[Walid] Jumblatt then told me that he had met with Vice-President Cheney in Washington last fall to discuss, among other issues, the possibility of undermining Assad. He and his colleagues advised Cheney that, if the United States does try to move against Syria, members of the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood would be “the ones to talk to,” Jumblatt said.” -The Redirection, Seymour Hersh
The article would continue by explaining how already in 2007, US and Saudi backing had begun benefiting the Brotherhood:
“There is evidence that the Administration’s redirection strategy has already benefitted the Brotherhood. The Syrian National Salvation Front is a coalition of opposition groups whose principal members are a faction led by Abdul Halim Khaddam, a former Syrian Vice-President who defected in 2005, and the Brotherhood. A former high-ranking C.I.A. officer told me, “The Americans have provided both political and financial support. The Saudis are taking the lead with financial support, but there is American involvement.” He said that Khaddam, who now lives in Paris, was getting money from Saudi Arabia, with the knowledge of the White House. (In 2005, a delegation of the Front’s members met with officials from the National Security Council, according to press reports.) A former White House official told me that the Saudis had provided members of the Front with travel documents.” -The Redirection, Seymour Hersh
It was warned that such backing would benefit the Brotherhood as a whole, not just in Syria, and could effect public opinion even as far as in Egypt where a long battle against the hardliners was fought in order to keep Egyptian governance secular. Clearly the Brotherhood did not spontaneously rise back to power in Syria, it was resurrected by US, Israeli, and Saudi cash, weapons and directives.
And most recently, as the West frequently does before elections it wishes to manipulate, premature claims by the Muslim Brotherhood of a victory during a presidential runoff were made headlines by the Western media in an effort to portray the Brotherhood as the victors and lay the groundwork for contesting any results other than a decisive win for the West’s proxy of choice.
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
US State Department-run Radio Free Europe Radio Liberty’s (RFE/RL) “Muslim Brotherhood Declares Victory In Egypt Election,” amongst many other articles attempted to give readers the impression that the Muslim Brotherhood had indeed already won the election. In reality the official tallies had yet to be given and it was merely the Brotherhood’s own rhetoric upon which the report was based. As election results were finalized, and the Brotherhood’s candidate, theUS-educated Muhammad Morsi, appeared not to have the decisive victory claimed by his party and the Western media, immediately accusations of voter fraud were leveled against the Egyptian government.

Image: From the US to Serbia, to Egypt and back again, US State Department-funded, trained, and equipped agitator Ahmed Maher poses at the scene of “Occupy D.C.” Ironically, Americans claim Maher and his “April 6″ movement have inspired them to rise up against their corrupt government, unaware that his movement was insidiously created by the US government. Photo: courtesy Ahmed Maher, Spencer Ackerman
The West is already combining its various proxy fronts for what it sees as a pivotal showdown and perhaps another opportunity to overthrow any remaining nationalist tendencies within the Egyptian military. Despite the Muslim Brotherhood, allegedly being a theocratic sectarian party, the antithesis of what the secular April 6 Movement allegedly stood for, Ahmed Maher, the movement’s founder threw his full support behind the Brotherhood.
Maher it should be remembered, had been in the US, Serbia, and back again to the US for a series of training and networking opportunities arranged by the US State Department before during and after the so-called “Arab Spring.” What seemed like politically ideological opposites, between April 6 and the Muslim Brotherhood, in fact share a common denominator – they are instruments executing Western foreign policy.
Libya, Egypt, Syria and Beyond to Form United Front Against Iran
Weakening Egypt before NATO’s assault on Libya was a crucial step in ensuring the latter’s absolute destruction and the creation of what is now a Libyan terror-emirate shipping cash, weapons, and fighters east and west to destabilize and overthrow various governments on the Anglo-American’s long “to-do” list. The West’s ability to install a Muslim Brotherhood government in Egypt, with it’s substantial regional standing and influence would be a serious blow not only to Syria, but to Iran as well. The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt is already echoing calls by the US and Israel for “intervention” in Syria.
Along with Libya, Egypt and of course the Gulf States of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE, and with the possibility of the Brotherhood coming to power in Syria as well, a united front against Iran would be formed and prepared to fight a proxy war on the West’s behalf against the Islamic Republic.
Such a reordering has not only been mapped out in US foreign policy documents like Brookings Institution’s “Which Path to Persia?” report, but mirror designs against China where all of Southeast Asia is slated for destabilization, regime change, and realignment to carry out the West’s ambitions to contain and even collapse a rising China.
Full article here
7 Responses to “US Struggles to Install Proxy “Brotherhood” in Egypt”
-
christmas says:
Doesn’t the CIA have anything better to do than kill, maim, destroy and make life miserable.
You people causing this … you will stand before God and give account for every life you destroy and the hatred you breed. God damn you. I bring down the wheel of God upon you whoever you are . -
kramer says:
I noticed that there is a “Mohammed Morsi” from Etypt listed in a meeting on Socialist International’s (SI) website. Not sure if it’s the same guy, my guess is that it is.
Based on what I’ve found on SI’s website, it looks to me like we are helping nation rebuild and that SI is getting some of their people in power after. In other words, we are working with Socialists. I hope I am wrong…Woods Reply:
June 23rd, 2012 at 8:44 am
@Kramer, you are absolutely right: Vladimir Lenin himself recommended to his followers that they ALLY THEMSELVES WITH ISLAM in order to destroy western civilization more easily. This Unholy Muslim/Marxist Alliance has been exposed by several warriors such as David Horowitz and Jamie Glasov.rahgoo Reply:
June 23rd, 2012 at 11:07 am
Many of Egypt’s downtrodden believe that Morsi is the Mahdi–the prophesied redeemer of Islam. Others view him as a greedy politician who will pocket exorbitant fees from visitors to the pyramids.Woods Reply:
June 23rd, 2012 at 1:02 pm
@rahgoo–Egypt’s REAL “Downtrodden” are the Christian Copts, forced to survive by collecting the Muslims’ garbage every day, rather like the “Untouchables” caste of India. But unlike the Christian Copts, the Untouchables aren’t regularly raped and slaughtered, nor are their churches burnt to the ground and their priests killed. -
Woods says:
Beware this word “Proxy”! It implies that there is some kind of “divide” between “good, peaceful Muslims” and “bad Muslim stooges of the CIA”, exactly the line of “taqiyya” deception practiced by that SLIMY APOLOGIST FOR ISLAM, SAMAN MOHAMMEDI, the tick with his jaws clamped firmly into the hide of Prison Planet.
The Muslim Brotherhood has been around a lot longer than the CIA, and they are of course willing to accept any kind of money or help from anyone to accomplish their goal of crushing humanity under the jackboot of the Global Caliphate, which is the RELIGIOUS DUTY OF EVERY MUSLIM, as it is the RELIGIOUS DUTY OF EVERY MUSLIM TO KILL NON-MUSLIMS in order to gain entry into Muslimi “Paradise”.
Just because you give money and help to Muslim terrorists, doesn’t mean they somehow cease to be Muslim terrorists, and are somehow just your own stooges. I hope people will get this clear in their minds, instead of swallowing the propaganda of the Unholy Muslim/Marxist Alliance recommended by Lenin as a good way to destroy western civilization. -
SiDevilIam says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
My good buddy, Agutino Fontevecchia, writing for Forbes Magazine, made silly statements. I wrote a caustic comment, which was published.
06/23/2012
My Dear Agustino Fontevecchia, I am Sid Harth.
My Dear Agustino Fontevecchia,
I am Sid Harth.
Do you know that beliefs, such as yours in peace, balancing acts, Middle East shared responsibilities, Yiddish turned into Farsi sort of thingy, as advocated by you, here and now, may land you in big trouble?
Needless to say, you are so off your rockers, pretending to be a messiah, Oops, Mahdi of the Middle East mess that I may proclaim you a heretic.
When you decide, finally, how in the world you can turn the good earth upside down, please let me know.
I wanna jump off, before you do it.
Talk is cheap and you are doing it, rather shamelessly.
Go to your room and no TV, sting, texting, factsting, internet surfing, eBaying, buying, selling, telling tall, unbelievable stories, disappearing, whispering, Oops, wetting your whims and whiskers for a weeks for you. Silly boy.
…and I am Sid Harth@webworldismyoyster.com
Leave a Reply
Logged in as SiDevilIam. Log out »
इदं न मम – Iran Nuclear Research Funny Games and I
mysistereileen.com/?p=3432Jun 7, 2012 – May 24, 2012 – Washington voiced cautious hope on Wednesday that Iran was finally … That is the nuclear advance most worrying to the West …
इदं न मम – Cyber War, Stuxnet, Barack Obama and I
mysistereileen.com/?p=3546Jun 13, 2012 – इदं न मम – Stuxnet Saga: Same Shit, Different Day. mysistereileen.com/?p=3290. Jun 2, 2012 – May 21, 2012 – Iran with no nuclear weapons …
इदं न मम – I take no credit for this
mysistereileen.com/?p=zqpdmnbhoau&paged=6Jun 7, 2012 – 4 days ago – इदं न मम – Eurokrise, Oops, AthenaCruise and I – My Sister Eileen … U.N. nuclear chief reports tentative deal with Iran …
वसुधैव कुटुंबकम – Diplomacy, not US Dictatorship
www.webworldismyoyster.com/2012/…/diplomacy-not-us-dictatorshi…Jun 12, 2012 – Jun 2, 2012 – May 21, 2012 – Iran with no nuclear weapons is going to eliminate israel with 300 … … 1 day ago – My Sister Eileen: Sid Harth: …
वसुधैव कुटुंबकम – Binya Minckey Rooney and I
www.webworldismyoyster.com/2012/…/binya-minckey-rooney-and-…Jun 15, 2012 – mysistereileen.com/?p=3612 …. The obvious parallel is with the Iranian nuclear programme where the world has been going down the wrong …
वसुधैव कुटुंबकम – Of Peace, Steve Killelea’s Piece and I
www.webworldismyoyster.com/…/of-peace-steve-killeleas-piece-and-…Jun 12, 2012 – mysistermarilynmonroe.org/…/iran-nuclear-research-funny-games-an… 4 days ago – May 22, 2012 – Ad related to @mysistereileen.com Iran …
Iran nuclear talks: What world powers are offering, Iran isn’t buying …
mysistermarilynmonroe.org/page/43/?pag__May 25, 2012 – US Iran Syndrome and I « इदं न मम – My Sister Eileen … … On Iran nuclear research agenda, now hot, now cold, we must rearrange our …
हिन्दू तर्क शास्त्रद्न्य सिद्धार्थ – Rascals at …
mysistermarilynmonroe.org/2012/06/17/rascals-at-reuters-and-i/6 days ago – 4 days ago – 1 day ago – Jun 3, 2012 – Ad related to @mysistereileen.com Bashar al-Assad …. Barak: Israel Cannot Ignore Iranian Nuclear …
U.N. nuclear chief reports tentative deal with Iran – latimes.com
latimesblogs.latimes.com/…/un-nuclear-chief-reports-tentative-deal-w…May 22, 2012 – Israeli officials, who have long feared that a nuclear-armed Iran would target Israel, …. 1 day ago – …and I am Sid Harth@mysistereileen.com.
इदं न मम – I take no credit for this
www.cogitoergosumdesign.com/?page&paged=32Jun 2, 2012 – May 21, 2012 – Iran with no nuclear weapons is going to eliminate israel with 300 … … 1 day ago – My Sister Eileen: Sid Harth: Hariprasad …
Ad related to @mysistereileen.com Iran nuclearWhy this ad?
Will Israel Attack Iran?
www.foreignaffairs.com/What happens after Israel attacks Iran? Read expert analysis free.
![]()
Agustino Fontevecchia, Forbes Staff
Bringing You The Bull And Bear Case From The Markets DeskFollow (185)Markets
|
6/23/2012 @ 12:00PM |888 views
Can Letting Iran Get A Nuke Help Bring Peace To The Middle East?
It makes intuitive sense that Iran shouldn’t be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons, but what if that notion is wrong? What if letting Iran develop and test a nuke actually made the Middle East more stable?
That’s the thought-provoking position taken by prominent international relations scholar Kenneth Waltz, who thinks once Iran got a nuke, it would balance Israel’s nuclear might, with deterrence kicking in to finally make the Middle East a peaceful place. With oil falling below $80 a barrel last week, eliminating the geopolitical premium would add further downside catalysts, putting pressure on oil companies and Gulf States.Oil: Iran’s Hormuz Strait Threats Could Wreak Global Economic Havoc
Agustino Fontevecchia Forbes Staff
Remember How Oil Prices Threatened The Recovery? Look At Them Now
Agustino Fontevecchia Forbes Staff
The End Of Exxon’s Reign? PetroChina Now The Biggest Oil Producer
Agustino Fontevecchia Forbes Staff
Waltz’s argument is based on the idea that nuclear weapons foster stability, which on the face of it sounds wrong. “Power begs to be balanced,” he wrote in his latest essay in Foreign Affairs titled Why Iran Should Get The Bomb. Waltz suggests that “Israel’s nuclear monopoly […] has long fueled instability in the Middle East” by giving Israel asymmetrical power, and thus capacity to strike at its enemies with impunity when they attempt to question that power. This happened in 1981 with Iraq, in 2007 with Syria (when both of them tried to develop nuclear capabilities), and is being talked about now, with Iran.
At the same time, sanctions “primarily harm ordinary Iranians,” while history proves that they do little to derail nations from pursuing their nuclear ambitions, Waltz explained, citing the case of North Korea. Indeed, sanctions can have the opposite effect, while they push up the price oil (and favor major producer like Exxon Mobil, BP, and Chevron), sanctions make Iran “feel more vulnerable, giving it still more reason to seek the protection of the ultimate deterrent,” according to Waltz, who is a member of the University of California, Berkeley and Columbia University, a WWII veteran, and the founder of the neorealist school of international relations.
By reducing military imbalances in the region, allowing Iran to get a nuke could actually stabilize the Middle East. Waltz notes that “there has never been a full-scale war between two nuclear-armed states,” citing the case of China (which “became much less bellicose after acquiring nuclear weapons in 1964) and India and Pakistan (“in the face of high tensions and risky provocations, the two countries have kept peace”).
The reasons why we’re so afraid that Iran might get a nuke is that we have come to understand its leaders as irrational, while they are anything but such, Waltz says. Iran’s foreign policy isn’t run by “mad mullahs” but by “perfectly sane ayatollahs” that know how to use inflammatory and hateful rhetoric to gain advantage at the negotiating table. But, at the end of the day, they have shown no “propensity for self-destruction.”
Earlier this year, for example, Tehran threatened to close down the Strait of Hormuz in response to the European Union’s proposed sanctions (set to go into effect on July 1). Oil prices spiked, delivering windfall profits to oil companies while hurting consumers around the world. Iran realized what it was doing, but they never actually closed the Strait, knowing that it would result in a “swift and devastating American response.”
In the same way, Iran isn’t looking for self-destruction by pursuing nuclear weapons, according to Waltz, rather they are looking to increase their defensive capacities.
In what I believe is Waltz’s most controversial paragraph, the scholar writes:Nevertheless, even some observers and policymakers who accept that the Iranian regime is rational still worry that a nuclear weapon would embolden it, providing Tehran with a shield that would allow it to act more aggressively and increase its support for terrorism. […] History shows that when countries acquire the bomb, they feel increasingly vulnerable and become acutely aware that their nuclear weapons make them a potential target in the eyes of major powers.
While it makes sense to think that Iran’s leaders are rational enough to understand that developing a nuclear weapon and deploying it against Israel would assure their destruction, it is difficult to believe that it wouldn’t embolden them. Tehran’s actions have made it clear that they want to become a regional power, and having the threat of a nuclear strike as an ace in their sleeve will definitely give them more leverage when acting and negotiating.
It isn’t immediately clear how oil markets would react if the U.S. publicly acknowledged it would stand down and let Iran acquire a nuke. The prospects of peace should put downward pressure on oil prices, while fostering production in the region (which would favor oilfield service providers like Schlumberger and Halliburton), but fear that Iran might use the weapons to further bully its neighbors could cause prices to spike. And, if there were an escalating conflict, fear of a nuclear war could send crude to unsustainable levels for the global economy.
While it is an interesting thought experiment, I don’t agree with Waltz that nuclear weapons would foster peace in the Middle East. While it is unfair and arbitrary that nation states currently in possession of nuclear weapons should be the only ones to have them, a world with less, not more, nukes would prove more stable. At the same time, trying to stop Iran via sanctions, sabotage, and assassinations has only fueled more, not less, volatility and geopolitical risk. It isn’t entirely clear what the best option is, but allowing Iran to join the nuclear club doesn’t seem like the best one.532More on Forbes Right Now
bigoil 4 hours ago
the article’s premise will soon become moot…the real question should be “when” – not “if”- iran has a nuclear weapon, what will be the political, military and economic (i.e., oil price) impacts… will nukes be smuggled from iran to clients syria and lebanon ? will others in the region “need” them to “re-level” the playing field ? how will israel respond ? etc. etc …the mind bogglessideviliam Just posted
My Dear Agustino Fontevecchia,
I am Sid Harth.
Do you know that beliefs, such as yours in peace, balancing acts, Middle East shared responsibilities, Yiddish turned into Farsi sort of thingy, as advocated by you, here and now, may land you in big trouble?
Needless to say, you are so off your rockers, pretending to be a messiah, Oops, Mahdi of the Middle East mess that I may proclaim you a heretic.
When you decide, finally, how in the world you can turn the good earth upside down, please let me know.
I wanna jump off, before you do it.
Talk is cheap and you are doing it, rather shamelessly.
Go to your room and no TV, sting, texting, factsting, internet surfing, eBaying, buying, selling, telling tall, unbelievable stories, disappearing, whispering, Oops, wetting your whims and whiskers for a weeks for you. Silly boy.
…and I am Sid Harth@webworldismyoyster.comReply+ show more+ show moreHaving a background in sociology, philosophy, and economics, I’m going to try to give this blog a pretty broad scope. Going from finance and economics, to geopolitics and world news, to the occasional academic or theoretical post. I was born in Buenos Aires, Argentina and live in New York, so we’ll try to add that into it as well. Even though I like Adam Smith, don’t be surprised if a little Marx makes its way in there as well. Follow me at @agufonteWho Just Made a Billion Dollars?
Our Real-Time Billionaires scoreboard tracks the biggest holdings for 50 of the world’s wealthiest people. See who’s up & who’s down right now »The World’s Most Powerful Celebrities
Channels
Company Info
Affiliate Sites
Data Partners
- Distributed by AT&T
- Tested by Spirent
- Market Data by Morningstar
- Xignite
- Thomson Reuters
- AdChoices
2012 Forbes.com LLC™ All Rights Reserved…and I am Sid Harth@webworldismyoyster.com
Posted at 05:35 PM | Permalink
Comments
You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.
PrisonPlanet.tv
Listen Now















June 23rd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
This article is the most misinforming garbage I have ever read.
People!!!! it is the Egyptian military that is an American tool. The nationalist officers were culled by Mubarak and the majority of the patriot command died on EgyptAir Flight 990 in 1999 when leaving the US. 30 generals, brigadiers and colonels died.
The youth groups that led the Tahrir struggles are Egyptian patriots and the Brotherhood are not tools of the West. Why do you think the Israelis are howling about them?
The only traitors and tools are military.
Tony Cartalucci is a liar and is feeding you BS.